80   WISCONSIN CHEESE MAKERS' ASSOCIATION


MR. DAMROW: You must remember the cheese makers have been
instructed to sell out as soon as they can with a declining market.
MR. HUBERT: I don't quite agree with Mr. Ubbelobde. I would
like to know for one if this is coming up at the next legislature this
fall.
MR. MICHELS: I don't know whether it is coming up soon or in
the distant future. I don't know as anybody does, but this is
simply endorsing the idea of doing the grading by disinterested
parties and nobody else.
MR. HUBERT:   Here is another thing, Mr. Michels made a state-
ment holding the cheese ten days. I don't believe Mr. Michels realizes
what it is to sell a cheese after holding ten or fifteen days. Twenty
years ago it was all right to have cheese in the factory ten or fifteen
or twenty days. People didn't object to mold but today if you put
a cheese out that has got any mold on it your regular trade will
come right back at you and don't want it. The people are look-
ing more for what they can see with theiiZ eyes than the way it
tastes. You find that every cheese dealer will bear me out. I
don't believe you can go ahead and hold a cheese in the factory ten
days or fifteen days and get away with it. Another thing, I would
like to say, I don't believe the graders got out last winter in less
than a month to make the rounds of the cheese factories. (Applause).
MR. MICHMLS: I want to ask Mr. Rindt, how much cheese he got
in to the factory warehouse during that snow.
MR. RINDT: We got it every week.
MR. MICHELS: I know some of you at least didn't get it in for
five days.
MR. SCHUJOHN: I would like to ask the Department of Markets
under their system how many men they would have to put into Dodge
County where there are approximately one hundred and seventy-six
brick cheese factories. How many men would they have to have to
grade that brick cheese in Dodge County? I believe it would have to
have the entire sixty men in Dodge County alone to grade the cheese
and bring it in at the proper time.
MR. MICHELS: Mr. President for fear of getting personal, I am
going to call on Senator Bilgrien to answer that question. I think
he is more capable to answer that question than I am.
MR. BILGRIEN: We are switching cars that come through there on
Tuesday and on Wednesdays, and they have the refrigerator cars
spotted at Iron Ridge. The grader is right here, he knows all about
it and he can give you a better explanation than we ourselves. We
have no kick coming on the grading at all. Our man comes there and
he gives us satisfaction as far as I know. We are well satisfied.
THE PRESIDENT: That doesn't answer the question, how many
graders do you consider it requires.
MP. BiwRiEN: Only one, one man is doing it now.
MR. SCHUJOHN: I understood from Mr. Michels the cheese should
be graded in the factory, is that correct?
THE PRESMDENT: That is correct.
MR. SCHUJOHN: Does Mr. Marty grade the cheese at the factory?
MR. MARTY: The idea is to grade all the cheese at the factory.
MR. SCHUJOHN: You spoke of one grader in Dodge County.
MR. MARTY: He grades at the factory.
MR. SCHUJOHN: That doesn't answer the question. The question
is if the cheese is graded at the factory how many graders does it
take to deliver the cheese on Tuesday and Wednesday from one hun-
dred and seventy-six factories.