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thing concrete to which your appeal could be tied, such as a break in
,diplomatic relations. I replied that I do not believe it will be necessary
to create such a situation, the chances are too good that the Russians
will do so themselves, I referred to the proposed demonstration in
Berlin on the 28th of May, which might result in 300 odd thousand
German youths attacking the populace of Western Berlin.4 That
would certainly be a"messy situation and a crisis. I referred to the
next
scheduled meeting of the Deputies on the Austrian Peace Treaty when
the Soviets may indicate conclusively that there will be:no treaty and
-that they want us .to get out of Eastern [Western?] Austria thus
ringing down the iron curtain in that area. Finally, I referred to the
possibility of an overall attack" on Formosa from the mainland' of
China where we understand air strips are being built, Soviet planes
are being furnished, and Soviet crews are training Chinese crews.
   I further pointed out to Mr.-Herter othat oe of the reasons the
 Russians-are considered more dangeroustoday'than in!1936, at'which
 time they had the same superiority in military power; was that in 1936
 they were in -Russia'.Today, they have extended themselves consider-
 ably. I said hatif we could get them back into Russiaby agreement
 On peace treaties for Austria and Germany,wewo uld be in.a far
 superior position militarilyý that even'if they did not withdraw
all
 the way into'Russia but remained in Polanrd,wewould be- muchbetter
 off-thanwith them now nearthe borders of the Rhine.
 Mr.-IHerter askedh6ow I"proposed to goabou tbringingto theAenr-
 ean people;a realiZatin ofn.the seriousness of the. situation"I replied
 that I intended todcontinue making speechesjon thesubject, driving
 home each time the same basi 4points, and adding little by little to the
 proposals for meeling these problems. I saidthat I realized that
 ,speeches alone would not'do it, that people read and heard what-was
 said and then turned their attention to other matters but that each
 speech would evoke a certain amount of press comment, a certain
 amount.of discussion and that I felt the influence would spread.
 I told Mr. Herter that if at any time he felt like giving vent to his
 feelings in a speech, I would be delighted if he would do so, that it
 would-help me materially for. there are a great many people he can
 reach.
 Mr. .Ierter said that he hoped we% would be able to work things out,
 that he wanted to be helpful, that he was sorry I had Ihad so much
 trouble on the Hill recently and that he realized .that made my
problems more difficult.

  Documentation on the:Whitsuntide aily i n Berfin, May 28-30, is schleduled
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