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been instructed to continue its work, but shortly after it convened,
the Soviets had walked out; nevertheless the Commission had carried
on. The United States had taken the initiative and submitted four
papers; a general paper laying out the field; description of the neces-
sary organization; the field of military and para-military establish-
ments which would have to be subject to control; other safeguards—
census and verification of industries. While there had been some oppo-
sition to going ahead, it was expected that a report would go to the
Assembly for its information. We would hear the views of other
delegations, and while we would not push substantive debate, it could
be anticipated. ee pe | | vos _
Ambassador Austin suggested that the history of conventional arma-
ments gave evidence of United States sincerity in the field. He was
not quite clear as to the coordination suggested between the two fields
of conventional armaments and atomic energy by the language “in
phase”, ee re De :
_ Mr. Dulles agreed that the United States should not encourage
substantive debate on these subjects because, at the present stage of
world affairs, it was not possible to have a debate in which the United
States position could be made with great sincerity. Our control of the
atomic weapons and the principal reliance of our government upon
them for defense had to be taken into account in considering the
problems. Acceptance of the plans we had. proposed would involve
complete collapse of the iron curtain. When one really stated all the
conditions which would have to be met, if one was honest, he simply
could not help giving the impression that the conditions were so many
and so difficult that this was simply a propaganda move. While Mr.
Dulles favored such propaganda when it could be gotten away with,
he did not believe this field should be selected for our main propaganda
effort. . | 7 . BC a ey
_ [Here follows discussion of other subjects. ]

8/ s Files : Lot aspess : Conversations with the President 1

| Memorandum o { Conversation, by the Secretary of State

SECRET a / oe | [Wasurerow,] September 1, 1950,
: -Mrmoranpum or CONVERSATION WITH THE Present .

- - . - ITEM NO. 5—UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY a

_ The President asked me to consider whether either in my opening

speech or in a possible speech which he might make to the General

4 Lot 65D238, memoranda of the Secretary of State’s conversations 1949-1952,
maintained by the Executive Secretariat.