1032                        FOREIGN     RELATIONS.

   77. Q. Did you ever see any documents or papers relating to the ownership
of the
 vessel ?-A. No, sir.
   78. Q. By whom were you discharged from the Virginius ?-A. I never was
dis-
 eharged, because Inever went back to her again after I left her to go on'board
the
 Venezuelan gunboat.
   79. Q. For what wages did you ship in New York ?-A. Eighty dollars a month,
I
 think,
   80. Q. Were you ever promised any greater sum as wages ?--A. I was told
by Mr.
 Marguiz that if we did run the blockade we would be amply compensated for
it.
   81. Q. Where, and by whom, were you first paid any wages after you went
on board
 the Virginius, and sailed from New Yorkf?-A. I was paid by the Cubans, in
Puerto
 -Cabello, by Mr. Arredondo, who went out withus on the ship from here. He
came on
 board from the Virginia Seymour.
   82. Q. Where was it you were paid f-A. In Puerto Cabello.
   83. Q. Before you went on board the gunboat, or afterward?--A. Afterward.
   84. Q. Did he pay you any portion of yourf wages earned on-the Virginius
f-A. Ie
 paid me the whole. He did not pay me anything for my services on the Venezuelan
 gunboat, but he did pay me in full for my services on the Virginius.
   85. Q. At what rate of wages did he pay you ?-A. Eighty dollars a month,
with 20...
 per cent. off for gold.
   86. Q. Why did he pay you ?-A. I asked him for my money. I told him I
wanted
 nothing more to do with the ship at all,-and asked -him for my money, and
he went to
 Quesada and got the money, and camee and handed it to me.
   87. Q. Did you see him get the money from General Quesada ?-A. He went
into his
 room and returned with the money.
   88. Q. How came you to apply to Mr. Arr4dondo to pay you, rather than
to-any other
 one of the Spaniards aboard ?-A. From the simple fact that he spoke English.
   89. Q. Who paid you for your services on the Venezuelan gunboat f--A.
I don't think
 I ever got anything. I went in the custom-house there with General Oquinda.
   90. Q. Where did you go :into the custom-house ?,--A. At Laguayra; and
they were
 speaking Spanish together; and then they took me before some of theirofficials
there-
 the Veneziuelan officials; then to Caracas, with a diligence, the capital
of Venezuela,.
 They gave me $4 or $5-in gold there. What their talk was I didn't know,
because I
 didn' t understand the language.
   91. Q. That was all you ever got ?-A. That is all.
   92. Q. Did you ever endeavor to get any pay for your services there ?-A.
I asked
 them, but could not get any.
 93. Q. Did you ever ask anybody on board the Virginius for your pay ?7-A.
I asked
 Guzman Blanco.
 94. Q. What did he say ?-A. He knew nothing about it.
 95. Q. Did you ask anybody on board the Venezuelan gunboatf--A. No sir.
 96. Q. Anybody who were described as CubansfI-A. No.
 97. Q. Did you get some pay before you sailed?--A. Yes.
 98. Q. From whom ?-A. I don't know whether it was from I. K. Roberts or
Patter-
 son; I don't know which of the two.
 99. Q. How muchh?-A. I don't know how many days I had worked.
 100. Q. Who was Patterson ?-A. He used to be a purser in Marshall 0. Roberts's
 employ some years ago, but he acted as business man for him. I understood
him to be.
   101. Q. In connection with this vessel ?-A. Yes, sir.
   102. Q. You considered him acting for Marshall 0. Roberts, did you?--A.
For young
I. K. Roberts, I believe, sir.
  103. Q. You had a conversation with Captain Shepperd after the man came
aboard,
off the Highlands f-A. Yes, sit.
  1G4. Q. Did you ever have any other conversation with Captain S-hepperd,
with refer-
ence to the Virginius, her use or destination ?-A-. Yes, sir; I had conversation
with
him a number of times.
  105. Q. Can you tell us when they were, and where they were, and what was-said
in each ?-A. 0, It was during the voyage, or the cruise, we conversed together.
We
was very intimate-Captain Shepperd and myself.
  106. Q. If you can tell us any specific thing, do so; and if you cannot,
say so.-Al.
Can't tell any specific thing.
  107. Q. When Captain Sliepperd-he left under a disagreement with the- A.
With
General Quesada.
  108. Q. Did you hear the cause of that disagreement stated ?-A. Couldn't
say posi-
tively about that. I heard arportion of it, as I said before, but the exact
words I
couldn't say. Captain Shepperd gave me to understand himself that Quesada
owned
the ship.
  109. Q. He didn't tell you that he left because Quesada owned the ship,
but for some
other reason f--A. He left because they would not tell him where the ship
was going.
That is the reason he quit. I heard him say that himself.